SDAST Chat meeting #105: Wednesday 15 June 2005 Participants: Silvia Martinez-Nunez, Jerome Chenevez, Niels Joergen Westergaard, Carol Anne Oxborrow Subjects discussed: SVR inputs - PK has delivered some on Crab position determinations - CAO will provide figures on gain evolution and energy resolution changes based on calibration spectra to supplement JC's results based on the Xe line - SMN will review the drafts OSA 5.0 release has been put back 2 weeks because of ISGRI problems - SMN will re-deliver the scripts to correct the PIF handling problem, but the `save' problem is too big to be dealt with for OSA 5.0 - JC has to debug and re-deliver j_ima_mosaic No AIs have been closed since the meeting CAO has added more material to the Developper's Forum but it needs to be re-arranged to make the material easier to find Action Items: AI050615_1 CAO 2005/08/01 Re-arrange SDAST forum so that documents are easier OPEN to find **** Logging Started : Wed Jun 15 11:00:53 MEST 2005 *** silvia (~silvia@130.226.216.2) has joined channel #jemxadr > Hello, I'm here! END Yes, that is a relief... I felt alone! > Hi Silvia, did you have a good trip home, and a relaxing weekend? > I think Jerome has some good news for you! END Good morning Carol Anne ! bon jour jerome ! Hello Silvia! Did you get my recent email about linux compilation? END I had a nice trip back home and a very long weekend ! END Jerome: Yes, I did. I'm writting you an e-mail ! END Thanks! END > Peter can't be with us today. I wonder if Stefan will join us? Has anyone > heard from Stefan since the meeting? END I've not heard from Stefna since last week, when he sent a couple of e-mails on Thursday.END *** njw (~njw@130.226.216.2) has joined channel #jemxadr > We'll give him 5 minutes to start and then begin the real business. END What about NJW ? END * njw I'm here. Hello all END > Hi NJW! We're waiting a bit for Stefan. > Silvia, Charlotte had her first professional performance ever at Tivoli > last night - would you like me to send you a JPEG file of the great event? > END That's great ! Yes sure please send me the picture ! END > It's a pity so many people had to run off before the end of the meeting > last week. END Yes, and they are still not here now...! END > Let's get started, I want this only to be a very quick meeting - especially > since we were all at the meeting till the bitter end. END > First on the agenda: SVR. How are the inputs coming along NJW? END Right. END Got some from Peter on the Crab position determinations. > Looking at the list of tasks we made so carefully at the meeting, I can Niels has promised the j_ima_iros background stuff, Søren is working on > also give you figure of the energy resolution evolution for the mission gain development plots. END > since this appears in the gain history tables. END What figure number is that? END > I have no idea what figure number that is. END Carol Anne, that would be great, in particular if it with larger binning so * njw that the scatter is not dominationg the image END No problem with figure number, I'll just stick ti in at the appropriate * njw position END I am wondering if we are working on the same figure: 2.10... END > I'll see what I can do with binning the results - but I can't promise Please talk about it END Yes! END > anything - perhaps I have an offline tool that will give us per-revolution > results. END > Yes, but mine will be based on the calibration spectra, not on Xe like yours. > Maybe it's good to have the two different determinations. END Ok, so it will not be exactly the same... END > Any more comments on SVR? END To NJW: once the draft of the new SVR is ready, I'll review it. END * njw Very good, Silvia. Will you be around this and next week ? END Yes, I'll. END Silvia, have I told you that teh OSA release is posponed two weeks? END Stephane told me that. Indded I'll deliver a new version of the scripts today to close an SPR due to a bad setting of the PIF file information. END > See, that was good news! END > Okay, other loose ends from the meeting - this was really meant to be a > discussion of the date for the next meeting, but since we're already agreed > on 1-2 September I'd best solicit the other SDASTers views by email. Any > comments? END How about this "SAVE" problem with the script? END Sorry. no comment about the date. END Peter told with Isabelle about it and it will be major changes in the future to solve this problem. For OSA 5.0 the problem will be still there and the user will know about it. END The date for the next meeting is fine with me ! END Ok. END > Or they should know about it if they read the documentation.END That's the point Carol Anne ! END > Next on the agenda: AI list. Anyone had some completed AIs accidentally fall > on them? END That is always the point: the users have to read the 1000 pages of ISDC fdocumaentation before to use the SW. END > And certain developpers are supposed to read the ADD before changing their > sofware.........but they don't! (I'm not talking about anyone currently > present!) END That is even worse... END I mean: to read the ADD :-) END No AI on me ! END > I take it from all the surrounding discussion that no one's done any AIs. END Y for me END > Yes??? Which AI have you closed NJW? END NO AI on me as far as I know. END > Okay, shall we move on to AOB? I have some AOB. END Y Y Y > First, I've updated the forum with all sorts of topics that have been discussed > by email. See under `Results and discussion'. I hope collecting our > problems and discussions together like this serves some useful purpose. > Secondly, Soeren has taken over my instrument configuration page, which I > hadn't managed to update in the last year. So far we've seen nothing from > him of the promised instrument status/info/introduction/configuration page, > so we'll have to wait and see whether he can keep it any better updated tha > I can. Any comments? END May I allow myself to make a comment on the forum? I think it is not always easy to find a given Just one ! It's great you have move some of your JEM-X tasks to someone on the team. END subsection. May be it could be a good idea to have the link already at the top of the page. END > I have links to the general sections, but you have to root around in the > sections: they're all arrange in decreasing chronological order (i.e. Most > recent documents first). Basically, all the links are at the top of the > page because it's just a page full of links so the list is very long. > Perhaps I should add a little description to each section so that you can > see what sort of documents are where. Would that help? END Ok, but we (I) cannot remember the chronological order of everything we may need from the forum. > Yes but you can remember if it was something from this year or last year or > 3 years ago. The description of each set of links should give you some > help too. How else do you suggest I arrange all this material? END > I could add some other secctions: Crab calibrations; Other astronomical > sources - any more suggestions? END Actually I can't find "Results and Discussion" I may suggest that instead of a long page, the links are to other pages, maybe one for each section. END > At top of page click on topic "Result and Discussion Documents' and it > brings you down to `Discussion and Results', you don't need to scroll > down the whole page if you use the topics at the top of the page. END OK, sorry. I had to push the reload button. Still, I think there are too many links > Any other comments? END too similar to each other. Maybe the choice of another police or something like that to help > yes, there's alot of stuff there! I'll try to rearrange the topics at the > top so that you can easily see which topic you might need. END No comments ! END the eye to catch what is new or really important. I do not know. I am just trying to help. END > I could try to have `What's new this month' section just below the topics > if you like. Does anyone else use the Forum? END Yes. that would be great. END Yes, sometimes I take a look to the Forum. I think the Forum is a tool for the JEM-X team, Yes, I use it sometimes END and therefore we can also get some inputs of the topics from the SDAST Meetings, the e-mails and the Chats. END > If people really do use it I don't mind spending time on re-arranging it to > make it easier to use (maybe bigger fonts for a start!), and maybe I'll > archive some of the older material. I'll put an AI on myself to get this > done. END Thank you. END > Any more AOB, or should we just get back down to doing SVR inputs? END No more AOB ! END I have to debug j_ima_mosaic before I have input to the SVR... END No more for now END > No really? You poor chap! What is it with software that the second law > of thermodynamics seems to affect it more than any other entity on the > planet? END It maybe because computer are getting faster and fater. END Well, bye, have a nice time END > Well, if that's all that's to be said, then goodbye! END To CAO: Thanks for the photo of Charlotte ! Seeing her in the stage must be amazing ! END *** njw has left channel #jemxadr : (njw) Hej, hej ! Have a good day ! END Good bye! > Yes it was - I hope we'll see you again in Copenhagen *** jerome has left channel #jemxadr : (Quit) > when Peter's feeling more sociable. Good bye END Take care and give my best regards to your family ! END *** silvia has left channel #jemxadr : (silvia)