SDAST Chat #98: Tuesday 14th December 2004 Participants: Peter Kretschmar, Stefan Larsson, Sami Maisala, Carol Anne Oxborrow Jerome Chenevez, Silvia Martinez-Nunez, Niels Joergen Westergaard Subjects discussed: AI list: many closed, several re-dated. Generally looks like we can keep our deadlines SDAST personnel position still precarious and largely unknown what some key players will be doing in 2005 (just a few weeks away!) Silvia still struggling with her thesis; will present science results at the next SDAST meeting in Madrid ISDC rotation schedule. No visits in November and December - apparently SL and NJW simply forgot to go. -NJW will take over responsibility for the schedule from JC and try and enforce it -CAO will probably go to ISDC for a week in January 2005 **** Logging Started : Tue Dec 14 10:57:04 MET 2004 *** njw (~njw@130.226.216.2) has joined channel #jemxadr Hej Carol Anne, tak for arkiveringen af mandagsmødereferaterne END *** jerome (~jerome@130.226.216.2) has joined channel #jemxadr *** larsson (~larsson@130.226.216.181) has joined channel #jemxadr Hi! Hello Stefan, how are you today ? END Hi Stefan! I am fine, you too I hope. END *** smaisala (~smaisala@gemini.astro.helsinki.fi) has joined channel #jemxadr Yes, thanks END *** silvia (~silvia@uhuru.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr To NJ: Our new server (computer and RAID) is now installed. Hi everybody. END Hello Silvia! Good morning everyone ! And sorry for the slightly delay ! END and Sami! > Hello everyone: I've put quite a lot of new stuff on the forum, so take a look That is, the hardware, OS is being set up and I have made some tests > at what's available some time soon! END on it. Hope to have everything there before Christmas. I have als asked for you to get an account. END That sounds good, Stefan, will there be a README file with the archive content description ? END Yes. END I will mail some updated instructions too. END *** peter (~pkretsch@crab.unige.ch) has joined channel #jemxadr Hi there, sorry for being late. END Salut Peter! > That's all good news Stefan, but how's your job hunt going? I saw an announcement > for a professsor position at Stockholm, any chance you'll get it? END Regarding job, its wait and see. END I will apply but the competition will probably be vary hard. END > Pretty much the same situation here with JC then. END > Okay, shall we get started? Basically I think we should take a stroll through > the AI list and make sure all those ones labelled `Xmas 2004' actually get > done. Any comments? END N nnnnn n > First up to bat is NJW: > AI28_7 NJW 23 Dec 2004 Add keywords (e.g. tilt size and direction) in OPEN IC file IMOD-GRP: COLL-MOD > How's this coming along NJW? END It is done (actually today) END > Good, I'll close it then. Sami you're next: > AI29_3 SM Xmas 2004 SM to make zipped package of all his background spectra OPEN and XSPEC fits, and send it to all SDAST members > Status please. END > While we wait for Sami, I can report that AI29_6, making spectra of different > types of bad events to see how bad they really are will be finished by the > end of this week at the latest. > Peter let's move on to you: > AI30_2 PK Dec 2004 Make sure all SRG dummy events treated properly by OPEN ISDC system software > How's it going with SRG dummy events? END Actually I'd like to know what you need in this package? XSPEC results? All models are already in databases. END > We agreed at meeting 29 that you would make a tarball of all the figures > you showed at the meeting so that the rest of us could peruse your results. OK. > A URL to the database would also be good. FITS files of your results are > welcome too. END Sorry, I've not discussed these dummy events here yet - somehow that got lost in all the stress. How urgent is this discussion? END Ok. END > Peter: I've no idea how urgent this is, it wasn't me that brought up the subject Not so urgent since the on-board software patch is not quite fully tested yet, > at th emeeting. Does anyone else know when this needs to be done by? END > Sami: when can you make us all a nice package/URL of your results? END and then it will take some time to put it through ISOC/MOC END > Shall we give Peter a new due date for the SRG events, say end of Jan 2005? END Jan 2005 shoul be fine END > Done! What about you Sami: could you distribute your results by the end of > the year? END > Okay, another AI for NJW: > AI30_6 NJW Xmas 2005 Put numbers (error estimates) to the imperfection of OPEN the vignetting correction I hope so. END > Is Xmas a realistic deadline for this one NJW? END > Thanks, Sami - we'll keep an eye out for a big Christmas present from Helsinki! END Yes, before Xmas is still realistic END No, wait, make it Jan 1, 2005 (there are some days between Xmas and New Year) END > Good stuff NWJ! Next, PK and NL: > AI30_7 NL/PK 2004/12/3 Propose a new data structure template for Back ONGOING Projection functions used by NL's imaging software > Evidently, I'm going to have to circulate some reminders to NL, SB and CBJ about Still ongoing, though we had some exchanges. Currently I think the ball is again in Niels' camp. END > their AI duties. END > So we'll keep the `ongoing' status, but what about the deadline? END I fear this one will need a due date early in January, since since yesterday I am on vacation (in theory at least) END > I can hear that you're really enjoying your vacation! New due date: 15 Jan 2005. > END > AI30_11 NJW Dec 2004 Find fluxes integrated over all energies for all OPEN pointings of last Crab calibration (FM1) using OSA4.2, to compare with Carls results > Can you also get this one done by Xmas NJW? END Hmm, you have to make this end of January. j_ima_iros has higher priority END > Okay, will do. END > My next one will also be done by the end of this week: > AI30_13 CAO Xmas 2004 Circulate proposal to include detector aging in gain OPEN corrections > Any comments? END N N n n > Okay, a nice big joint AI next: > AI30_14 NJW/PK/NL Dec.\ 2004 Remove overlap in IMOD/detector data OPEN reading functions already contributed to shared library This is part of the j_ima_iros work so there will be new (or updated) functions by end of January END > Okay, end of Jan 2005 it is. END This also applies for AI30_14 END > Now one for Stefan: > AI30_15 SL/NJW 2004/12/3 Compare C-structures with NL's to streamline OPEN use of structures in the shared library I expect to look at it before end of year. Stefan, remind me to send you some information/functions next week. Niels and Right, lets make it 2004... I are working onthis now END > Good, so we'll leave that date. Now another for Sami: > AI30_16 SM 2004/12/3 Decide which C-structures to use for background OPEN models within ISSW functions OK NJ. END It is already done. I send the pre-defined versions to Peter and NJW. Any comments? Is this AI closed? END > That's great - another one closed! END I think we could close it, what do you think Niels Jørgen? END > Please tell me when you've done the work to close an AI - I can't sense > telepathically that you've sent something to someone else. I've closed this > one. So next AI: > AI30_17 NJW 2004/12/3 Send SM list of empty fields since last rejection OPEN criterion change in instruments, with which to make new background models Carol Anne, we are probably glad you cannot read our minds :-) :-) END > *I'M* glad I can't read your minds!!!!! END :-) Do you still need this, Sami ? If yes, then how many do you need ? END > Anyway, inspired by Sami's example, I'm expecting that all the rest of the > AI's have already been closed without my knowledge - and you don't want to Yes, I have no idea where might be 'empty fields' after HW change. END > disappoint me now! END > NJW have you done AI30_17? END No, I can do it in 2004. END > That's great, we'll set the due date to Xmas, and Sami can use the information > between Xmas and the New Year. END A very good proposition, that avoids Sami getting bored with celebrations :-) :-) END > This next one has been closed by PK and NL, but no word yet from NJW and SL: > AI30_18 NJW/SL/PK 2004/11/26 Each to write a proposal on how `Smart OPEN Selection' of radiusLimit parameter should be implemented > I've put all the current proposals on the Developpers Forum, and would like > to complete the set (see under Discussion Documents and Results). END OK, will do this week END I will try to do the same. END > What about you SL? See - I have to ask, I really can't read your mind! END > Now the last remaining open AI is for Peter (this is a bit like unwrapping > Xmas presents!): > AI30_19 PK 2004/12/3 Write SCREW on modules that will implement `Smart OPEN Selection' for OSA 5.0 Well, that one depends on the other. make it Jan 5 assuming that before Christmas everyone has entered their ideas. END > Will do. Now is there AOB, or just lunch? END How is your thesis coming, Silvia ? Nearly finish NJW ! I hope to deliver next week ot the university ! END > We REALLY need someone to present some good science results at the next > meeting - so we're counting on you! END Yes, sure CARO I will ! That's good! END At the Stockholm meeting we have not really discussed the presence at ISDC... From my schedule, NL should have been there in November and Stefan now in December. END One quesiton CAO: are the list of JEM-X data structures up-dated in the ADD ? > Yes, to the best of my knowledge. END Thanks ! END Is there use for a representant at ISDC, Peter? END > We can however expect big additions and changes for OSA5.0 - I wouldn't attempt > to keep you thesis updated with these changes, or you'll be re-writing your > thesis for ever. END To Jerome: I would think yes and more so, when I'm not here. But then the main goal must be to actually interact with other people at ISDC, discuss e.g. mosiacking with Roland, OSA updates with Stephane, operations with Nami or Simon ... END Do not worry CAO, I am going to finish it before Xmas with the curren software status END > Yes, I agree with Peter: our presence is needed urgently in 2005. Who will be > responsible for making a rotation schedule if JC leaves the project? END Perhaps you should take over, CAO (?) END You may also ask already now: who is going to be there next (and when)? END Stefan, will you still have a possibility to visit ISDC as a representative ? > That's true JC: apparently we've already missed at least 2 months, so we need > womeone for January: any takers? Perhaps those who forgot in November and > december? END Well, For one thing I dont know if I have any travel money. I will know Sami, I assume that we cannot hope that you can join the rotation (?) END better early January when I have got my contract. END Silvia, you'll have a position in Valencia in 2005, right ? END I think so. But ... No, Unfortunately I cannot. END there is a possibility to get a job in Madrid, working with Peter. I think I will confirm you where I am going to be in 2005 in early new year. END Alright, we hope for the best END Mange tak, NJW. END Yes we do! END > Good luck with all your different job applications everyone! Let's hope there's Yes, also for you, Jérôme END > more than just me and the two Nielses left by January! END Tak Indeed, I want to talk with Niels and ask him for some advice but after finishing the thesis. I can not handle more than the thesis right now. END > NJW you're the official co-I for SDAST so you should take over the rotation > schedule, and make sure that it gets done END Yes, I will do what I can END > I could possibly manage 1 week in January to be at ISDC. END It's maybe not so important to have it often, but while being here, people should use the time for interaction. Great, let's plan that. I think that without Peter we should make our stays It's actually agreat proposition: you visit Switzerland for a few days and mainly chat with people instead of normal work :-) :-) END as long as feasible - and I agree with Peter END > Well that's sorted out - any other AOB? END no N N N N No - just my best wishes for all of you, merry Christmas and a happy new year! Except: Enjoy Xmas and New Year END FELIZ NAVIDAD Y FELIZ AÑO NUEVO !!! GOOD JUL !!! END Hyvää Joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta! END The same Peter and the rest of you. END Joyeux Noel et Bonne Annee! GOD JUL. > Best wishes for a very mery Christmas and a splendid New Year - let's hope that Prettig Kerst en Nieuw Jaar > 2005 brings you all new jobs, new challenges and lots of good healthy work! END *** njw has left channel #jemxadr : (Bye) *** Signoff: peter (ircII/tkirc) *** jerome has left channel #jemxadr : (Bye) *** Signoff: larsson () *** silvia has left channel #jemxadr : (silvia)