SDAST chat meeting #74: Thursday 13th March 2003 Participants: Silvia Martínez-Nuñez, Jerôme Chenevez, Peter Kretschmar, Carol Anne Oxborrow, Niels Jørgen Westergaard, Sami Maisala Subjects discussed: Agenda for Valencia SDAST meeting Travel arrangements to Valencia ISSW status for the OSA release New compilation checking tool Action Items: none **** Logging Started : Thu Mar 13 12:49:59 MET 2003 *** silvia (~silvia@uhuru.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr *** njw (~njw@uhuru.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr *** peter (~pkretsch@isdcul19.unige.ch) has joined channel #jemxadr Hi everybody! Hello Peter and Siliva END Ups - Silvia is better END Good afternoon everybody ! END *** jerome (~jerome@oso.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr Hello every one! *** smaisala (~smaisala@gemini.astro.helsinki.fi) has joined channel #jemxadr Hello everybody. END *** silvia has left channel #jemxadr : (silvia) *** silvia (~silvia@uhuru.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr *** silvia has left channel #jemxadr : (silvia) Stefan is probably at his meeting, so we should not wait for him. END *** silvia (~silvia@uhuru.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr > hellohi everyone! Okay, I'm afraid we will have to be brief: shall we start > with subjects for the Valencia agenda?END Y Y Y y > Suggestions then: of course we should each give a status of our own components Yesterday I told with our secretary to book the meeting room om 31st from 9:00 to 18:00/19:00 and on 1st from 09:00 to 12:00/13:00 END > and have a general overview of where we are in the following categories: > gain/position corrections; deadtime; binning; imaging; background; source > extraction. > NJW should tell us about how far we are with IMOD > JC could tell us about the dead anode problem and his problems with it > Silvia should say something about scripts > We should quickly go over ADD update plans, AIlist > All astronomers should present their science results (if any!): PK, NJW, SL > Any other suggestions? END > Thanks for booking the meeting room Silvia. END Yes, I will give a presentation on what I have done for SPAG. I think we should also discuss the 'roadmap' for the coming months. Status for dead anodes is unchanged since last meeting in Copenhagen. END What are tools we will develop, which dates do we target, etc? END You welcome, I jus want to confirm with the booking that we will finish around noon the second day !END Caveats for the coming OSA release END > That'll be a long list NJW! END > Should Peter say something about data rights and how they're enforced? END W.r.t OSA relase - it will be out (or in packaging) when we have our meeting. END I can say something about datarights if you want, but there are no real news. END No further documentation can be added ?? END > Okay, any more agenda suggestions? END I will need only few minutes (10 minutes) for the scripts. Only minor changes have been performed since our last SDAST Meeting. END N > Who shall make the agenda? END Shall I say that we all trust your well proven capabilities, or would you like to chuck this off to someone else? END > How's the weather in Helsinki , Sami? END > I'll do the agenda tomorrow morning. END We have beautiful day here. Sun is shining and snow and ice is melting! END Perfect, Carol Anne ! END > That's great, we've got sunshine too!.Okay next on today's agenda: ISSW status. > I > 'm just in the process of delivering the super new shiny j_dead_time_calc > version 3.0. I won't say it's the last word in JEM-X dead time calculation, > but something quite close. Next up is j_cor_gain, which will get 5 new > keywords in SPAG to do normalisation to the Xe results, and a SPAG table > that contains real numbers! How long does this component checking take, Peter, > it seems to have been grinding away for hours? Also how what's the status on > the binnning components? END The component checking can take long as each time a full ISDC system is set up and compiled first. Our QA people think that if one spends weeks updating software a few hours to check it is doing the right thing are acceptable. END > I forgot to say I'll be sending round dead time results tomorrow for you all > to see. END *** larsson (~larsson@tenma.dsri.dk) has joined channel #jemxadr Hi, did I miss all the fun?? END > No, the fun's only just beginning......END Well, yes we were discussing how many of our tools you could maintain from now on as well :-) END Thanks Peter, I dont have to count too far to answer that one.. END > Peter, we're waiting to hear you ISSW status. END Status is that I just finnished my teaching and is going to get to that in the afternoon. END > What about you Sami - how's the background handling coming along? END Background handling is a task with no ending... > It has much in common with gain correction then. END Not worse than debugging software, believe me ... Or understanding them... OK, we will have the first meeting of the Anonymous ISSW writers Monday, March 31 evening :-) END Are there any more specifics from you Sami? > Okay Silvia: how's things with scripts? END I am just re-delivering the new version 3.3.1 The delivery from yesterday has not been accepted due to differences in j_cor_gain log messages A difference of 1 OBT unit in the reported OBT of the first usable time. in OBT of 1 (=2^-20 sec!) I am just wainting for the compilation checking again ! END I don't understand yet why this even can happen but will check once I find the time. END Right now there are many deliveries needing checking ... END Thanks Peter ! I am sure that the same j_cor_gain version and the same GAIn-CAL are used in my unit test and in the compilation checking ! END Any question on the scripts ? END > Not from me. END > If there are no more ISSW status issues, could NJW say, sorry type, a few Peter - the compilation failed again due to the same reason, my new re-delivery is again in "fellow" ! END > words about the status of IMOD group? END pardon, has failed ! END Did you take the option "differences expected?" END Yes, I did ! END > This strange OBT thing sounds a bit odd. Should I look in j_cor_gain for Carl's SPAG table is now included; CAO's DEAD-MOD is there; New DPOS is there, > the problem PEter? END > SPAG is going to need another update next week, when I've worked out the > keywords for the Xe normalisation. END The most important missing item is update of QEFF (and ARF table in response matrix) END To CAO: don't bother right now, this can wait. to CAO: Yes, I completaly agree with Peter. END To SMN: please just call up your delivery note again and this time press deliver without doing a compilation check. But make sure you mark (again) "differences expected". END Sorry for interrupting you Niels Jørgen. END OK, Peter ! END > Good news: j_dead_time-calc 3.0 is delivered and accepted: I can move on to My message is out, I think END > j_cor_gain with a clear conscience. > To NJW: do I sense a feeling that we're slowly getting into some kind of good > shape with IMOD? END NJW: when will the QEFF (and ARF table) be updated ? And sorry for interrupting you ! END Y I need this image update thing (get rid of flower pattern) out of the way first. Then I'll look at spectral fitting. If I'm lucky this week-end END That's sounds good Niels Joergen ! END > That completes the formal agenda for today, I think. I sthere any other business One last request > because it would be nice to get this meeting over with ASAP END Our secretary needs the expiry date of your credit cards for the hotel, shes has only the one of Carol Anne and Stefan. Could you please send to her ASASP ? And Sami do you know something about your arrival ? I am afraid that you can not be in the same hotel that the others ! END OK, will do. END Thaks Peter ! END Thaks = thanks ... sorry !!!! END Sami, are you there ? END Yes Ok, do you know when are you coming ? END I'm just bookin my fligh to Alicante. I will arrive at Sunday 30.3 Stefan, are you also flighing to Alicante ? END I will send you information when I know my exact schedule. END Yes. END Thanks Sami, I will need also your credit card and expiry date for the hotel booking ! END Stefan, please send me your arrival time, may be, I can pick you and Sami in Alicante airport ! END I think that the chat is over ! Just toinform you, next week I will on holidays ! See you soon ! END Ill send ypu the information later today when I have a confirmation. *** silvia has left channel #jemxadr : (silvia) (Thanks for the offer Silvia). END Bye. END BYE Bye everyone, have productive days ahead! END Bye *** jerome has left channel #jemxadr : (END) bye *** Signoff: peter (ircII/tkirc) *** njw has left channel #jemxadr : (njw) *** Signoff: larsson () > Have a good weekend every one END